Here is my main problem with established relationship stories: most of them don't have enough relationship stress. It is as if the author fears any tension between the characters, and so they make it clear right on page one that the couple is together and will be together forever and ever amen. Mean and nasty external forces might come to bear on the favored couple, but it never shakes their faith in each other and their commitment to one another. They may sigh and fret and bemoan their lover's fate, but ultimately, they know their commitment will win out. Frequently, these stories are labeled as angst, but to me, there is little angst in them; I already know how it's going to turn out. Nothing moves or changes emotionally for any of the characters involved. They can--and do--frequently go through hell, but that refining fire does not change or reveal anything about the characters at all; they end up in exactly the same place as where they started, in their close, committed relationship, both of them unchanged.
It's a story I want to read only when I have major PMS or when other traumatic life events swirl around me. While I get that we all need comfort fiction occasionally, does there have to be so much of it?
Seriously, why read the story when nothing really happens to the character, where there are no repercussions and no impacts? Why invest my time and emotional energy when the characters can survive being burned, frozen, separated from their families and friends for years, prostitution, drug addiction, ritual torture, etc. and come out without any emotional scars? When the characters and their relationships are made of Teflon? I 've read a lot of these stories lately, many of them highly recommended, and I just--well, I guess--I get annoyed. Really annoyed. I get downright peeved in fact.
The lack of consequences in an established relationship story frequently leaves me vexed.
It's a story I want to read only when I have major PMS or when other traumatic life events swirl around me. While I get that we all need comfort fiction occasionally, does there have to be so much of it?
Seriously, why read the story when nothing really happens to the character, where there are no repercussions and no impacts? Why invest my time and emotional energy when the characters can survive being burned, frozen, separated from their families and friends for years, prostitution, drug addiction, ritual torture, etc. and come out without any emotional scars? When the characters and their relationships are made of Teflon? I 've read a lot of these stories lately, many of them highly recommended, and I just--well, I guess--I get annoyed. Really annoyed. I get downright peeved in fact.
The lack of consequences in an established relationship story frequently leaves me vexed.
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Date: 2008-02-08 06:36 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-02-08 01:31 pm (UTC)EstRel can be hot, and it can have tension--tension that grows out of the characters and the situation--but the author has to be willing to let that happen and not sabotage it on page 1. I'm looking for the story to have some emotional stakes.
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Date: 2008-02-08 07:23 am (UTC)It's not like established relationships can't have some hotness (look at all the married fangirls. Saturday night works out sometimes for all of us, right?) - it's that relationships without tension and stories without stakes are BORING - even if they are tying each other up or rubbing ice cubes all over or whatnot.
Mmmm. ice cubes.
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Date: 2008-02-08 11:29 am (UTC)AND THIS IS WHY I LOVE YOU.
& :-D
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Date: 2008-02-08 01:31 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-02-08 11:27 am (UTC)That rings true and is one reason I'm not a fan of Established Relationship Stories.
I think they are fine for emotional and/or kinky porn because frankly, a lot of shenanigans aren't possible without an unquestioned bedrock of trust and intimacy, but as for plot stories or adventures--yeah. And by that I mean, no.
(Admittedly, I generally like pairings with in-built stress and fracture lines: Slayer/vampire, handler/double agent, spy/assassin, older male spy/younger female spy who's the daughter of the ex-wife with another man, US military leader/geek scientist, and so on. & ;-)
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Date: 2008-02-08 01:35 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-02-08 04:44 pm (UTC)Exactly--I'm thinking
Mmh, yummy emotional stakes.
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Date: 2008-02-08 12:48 pm (UTC)I don't mind a relative lack of conflict in the relationship if the relationship is not the important thing in the story--it's there in the background, and that's nice, but there's other stuff going on--but I (and probably many others) don't feel I can write that kind of story because as a writer I am more interested in relationships than plots.
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Date: 2008-02-08 01:45 pm (UTC)Basically, I don't want to read a story that lacks some kind of emotional tension; for what I read, I need character-based emotional stakes. It's part of why I avoided reading gen for the longest time, as it's so much easier for me to find a story lacking emotional tension in the gen pile than it is in the slash. First time stories may be thick on the ground, but as you say, there is a given emotional tension in that plot. The EstRel author has to work harder to get around that for me.